Queen of Racing

Ask The Experts #13

Zenyatta in her paddock. Photo by Alys Emson

Q:

When a racing thorougbred is retired from the track with the intention of being bred, do they generally settle down quickly from all the excitement of the track or does it take a while depending on the horse’s personality? Also, shortly after Silver Charm was retired to stand at stud, I watched a brief special on TV that said that he continued to be ridden and that he enjoyed being ridden. How common is it that thoroughbreds are still ridden after they are retired and are on a breeding farm? Just curious! Thanks for all you guys do!!

Megan Tallent

Indianapolis, IN

A:

Racehorses typically settle into retirement quite quickly. You have to remember we are actually putting them back in to a more natural environment to the one they have been living in at the track. However we don’t just bring them to the farm and put them out in the herd in a big field. The process is gradual and each horse dictates how long it takes depending on their behavior and also the time of year and weather conditions. We will turn them out in a small paddock daily and bring them in every evening. Typically with the fillies we then introduce them to a friend or two before they are eventually put in a larger field with a bigger group.

We do not ride any of our horses here at Lane’s End but it is not entirely uncommon to hear of Stallions being ridden after they are retired. At Three Chimneys Farm they do ride the stallions hence the piece on Silver Charm that you saw. We use a horse walker for the stallions that need additional exercise to help keep them trim.

Our Expert

Alys Emson

Client Management, Lane’s End

Alys has been at Lane’s End for fourteen years. She has worked in every division of the farm and is now in charge of client management, keeping owners up to speed about the lives of their horses.

898 comments

  1. Paynter Update Tues. Oct 9 2012 6:45 Pacific A. Zayat tweets
    Paynter Update: Paynter looks fantastic today.
    He has a great appetite, passing manure.
    Heart rate is good and his temperature is good.
    We did remove his IV catheter.
    Chest, feet, and incision look good.
    He has been grazing and is a happy horse
    paynters blood work is very good as well

    1. Keta,
      Thanks so much for the highly positive news!!!
      Will continue to keep Paynter in thoughts and prayers — keep the candles going, too!
      Take care and hugs!

    2. Wonderful News, Thank You Dear Lord.
      Can’t let up the prayers, though

    3. Dear Keta, Marshall, Peggy N. and Z Fans:

      Thanks Keta. Things are looking good. Hugs, JB

    4. Thank you Keta.

      Paynter: Keep eating up. You need to regain those lost pounds. Very glad to hear that you are sleeping like a foal. It’s a miracle!

      1. Excellent news – Paynter, just listen to Max and keep eating up. And St Francis, keep up the good work.

      2. Dear Max:

        It really is a miracle. Hugs, JB

    5. Excellent, Paynter! All signs looking so good!

    6. Yea for Paynter!

    7. Paynter, your good news has made this day even better. you are a champ!
      keep up the good work, buddy!

  2. Breeders Cup Challenge winner for 2012 BC,
    lovely slide show, Enjoy !!

    http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/slideshows/slideshow/2012BCWinIn/2012-breeders-cup-challenge-winners

    1. Sheena,

      Snow, I’m a Dreamer, “O” and a few other Eruo’s are in this slideshow.
      Lovely photo of Snow, she is sooo beautiful. It is so amazing some of the
      phots show the horses off the ground or on one foot galloping.

      1. What a nice treat. Thanks,Sign!!!
        Incredible photos.

    2. Great Slideshow.

    3. Dear Sign:

      Thanks for this link. Hugs, JB

    4. Beautiful photos. Love them all, but how about that Wise Dan? Wise Dan is in a class by himself. He runs well on all surfaces.

      1. BC will be sending him a box of her grooming products,asap!

  3. Some Interesting Facts on Orfevre

    Birthday May l4, 2008, (May baby, like me.) Had to throw that In. (true)
    Sire Touch Gold
    Dam Oriental Art

    Grand Sire Sunday Silence (Beginning to know some of the reasons I love him so.)

    Northern Dancer on Dam’s Side.

    1. Dear Peggy:

      Loved Sunday Silence. Northern Dancer; what a legacy. Lovely pedigree. Hugs,JB

    2. Peggy. Orfevre is a handsome horse with lots of talent. That chesnut coat is impressive. His quirky personality also makes him interesting. Looking forward to seeing him in the Japan Cup.

      Keta: Any news of his travels back to Japan?

      1. Max, me too. Looking so forward to that race.
        Let’s see Japan’s about l3 hours ahead of us. I think. Maybe he’s getting back home by now. Sure hope he traveled well.

      2. Max,
        O is very good looking. I am happy to know he is using the BC line of mane and tail products, or did Ms. Nelly send him a special delivery box?
        I believe you are correct about the Whirlaway tail. Loved that guy! Work it O!!!

        Peggy…hope they showed him a good movie on the trip back.

        1. Hee Hee -good one Ann! :-)

        2. Me too, Ann Long trip.

      3. Kate Hunter‏ KeibaKate tweet
        Orfevre and his pal Aventino arrived back in Japan this morning, safe and sound.

        1. Dear Keta:

          Thanks for this info on Orfevre. Hugs, JB

        2. Thank You so much Keta.

    3. Hey Judy,

      Yes, What a legacy
      I went in and checked on Gabby tonight. Didn’t see any more works yet. Could be any day, though
      You know I always was so sad that Sunday Silence was sent so far away, But in hind sight, There wouldn’t have been an Orfevre if he hadn’t

      1. Dear Peggy:

        I agree with you, but I always wish they could stay in the States. I even worry about Bernie every year when he goes to Australia.

        Sunday Silence is similar to I’ll Have Another as he won both the Derby and the Preakness and ended up at stud in Japan too.

        Yes, I checked on Gabby too. Will probably have a work the middle of October. Hugs, JB

        1. Dear Judy: Please don’t worry about Bernie – we just love him down here, and he is really, really popular at the stallion parades. The Darley team are a really good bunch – so don’t worry – he’s loved here too!

        2. Dear Kathy:

          I’m sure Bernie is well loved and cared for really well while he’s in Australia. It’s just me. He’s my most favorite Boy, along with Papa Charlie and The Prince. I worry about all of them. Thank you for being so sweet and for all the wonderful and informative posts. Hugs, JB

      2. Dear Kathy,

        Sooo good to hear that you love Bernie as much as we do and glad to hear he is popular down under, too. What type of parades does he paricipate in.

        Maybe So You Think will come to the US to breed, that would be wonderful.
        We would have a bunch of TB with that sexy forelock and that would be something to see.

        So glad you are watching over our “guys”.

        1. Sign: All the horse studs have a stallion parade before the start of each breeding season – gives them all a chance to show off the new boys in town, and also how well the regulars are going.

  4. For those who loved the Budweiser commercials with their famous Clydesdales. this is 9 minutes of fun to watch the training over 15 years. My fondest memory is seeing these gentle giants and having one wink at me just like he did in a commercial. Hope this post shows up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InryQsa-mPs

    1. Dear Janet:

      That looks like Monty Roberts training them in the video. Is there anything these smarties can’t learn! Love these commercials. Wow, you were very lucky to get your very own wink. Hugs, JB

      1. JudyB. These guys are just great.

    2. Thank you Janet.

      Really enjoyed this. I have always loved the Clydesdales. Lol, it looked like that one was trying to pose like our Zenny. Thanks again Janet.

    3. Janet, thanks so much for this video. What a wonderful way to start the day.

    4. Oh, I love the Clydesdales. Thanks for sharing, Janet.
      Lucky you getting a wink. I was lucky enough to catch them by chance one day. They put on a fine show. I will never forget seeing them.

      There is a picture of them now on my frig!

    5. Thanks Janet – this was great. The “eastern team” was here in April for the Cleveland Indians opening day. They were put up at the Mounted Police Stable, and I went to visit. “Mitch” accepted pets and posed for a picture – I look like a midget!! :-)

      1. Lucky you! Glad you got to meet them.

    6. Dear Janet,

      Sooo very much love the Clydesdales, very very very cute video.
      Thanks for finding and sharing. There is a really cute Christmas
      one where they shake the snow from a tree onto another group of
      horses.

      Sooo very talented and funloving.

      1. What training,Sign. Would that not be the best job ever,working along side these beauties. I just adore them. I would really like to ride one,how about you,Sign?
        Heck, I would travel w/ them to be the groom!

    7. Janet…what a treat to see this video! Thanks so much for the link…it’s amazing what is shared on Zenny’s site.

    1. Sounds like fun!
      I suppose Calvin will be the rider up, in the film?
      Great story. can’t wait for it to come out.

      Thank you, Barbara. Do it, Debbie!!

    2. I should go check this out, Barbara. I am off this week. Who knows, maybe you all could see me on the big screen! Thanks for sharing.

  5. dear sign thanks for the slide show lovely photo of snow fairy she’s a beautiful little mare pity you wont be seeing her this year!! hooves crossed all will go well for her next season hugs sheena

    1. We can hope to see her in 2013, and yes I hope she recovers and comes
      back better than before. Such a talented mare.

  6. dear peggy I’m a may child too just like you and the mighty orfevre hugs sheena

    1. Sheena when in May is your Birthday? Mine is May 29th

  7. Paynter Update Wed. Oct 10 2012 8 minutes ago Justin Zayat tweets
    Paynter doing extremely well the last 24 hours.
    His appetite and attitude has been excellent.. he ate 16 lbs of hay yesterday!!
    we will update more throughout the day

    1. Thanks, Keta.
      Look at those words…excellent,extremely and 16lbs. of hay….tear it up Paynter!
      I am so, so happy for you,buddy!!!

      1. Dear Keta, Ann and Z Fans:

        Wonderful news on Paynter. Keep improving sweet Boy. Hugs, JB

    2. Go, Paynter!

    3. Thank You Keta, Wow Paynter, You keep eating. This is wonderful news to hear.

  8. dear sue so sorry to hear about miss traveller’s problems she will always be in my prayers so glad to hear barnaby is fine hugs sheena

  9. dear sign and kathy they changed the whips over in the UK for the jump jockeys a few years ago it’ a more softer type of whip now not that it makes much difference to me hate to see horses hit too much !!!hugs sheenaX

    1. Dear Sheena and Z Fans:

      Something else we agree on. Hate seeing whips used excessively. Hugs,JB

    2. Dear Sheena and Z fans,

      Interesting that they changed the jumps first then the flat.
      Whips are a necessity as the jockey does not have a leg
      or seat as an aid to move the horse forward.

      But should not be used excessively or when the horse is
      not responding to it.

    3. A voice of those in the UK who oppose any whipping of horses.

      Northern Dancer’s owner instructed his jockeys never to use the whip on the Dancer. ND’s mother, Natalma, a daughter of Native Dancer, when whipped just went on strike and refused to run.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051190/John-McCririck-Why-jockeys-whip-barbaric-banned.html

      1. Smart Girl, Natalma

        1. Peggy (N). Northern Dancer has something in common with you and your Orfevre. He’s a May baby. His birthday is May 27, 1961. When he won the Kentucky Derby and Preakness, he had not yet reached his third birthday.

  10. Ascot Racecourse‏ tweet
    Ascot is pleased to announce that Her Majesty The Queen will be in attendance at QIPCO British Champions Day, on Saturday week, 20th October

    1. To see the GREAT FRANKEL, in his swan song.
      Best trip for him and sadness for his fans as he goes off to meet the girls.

      Hoping he will TELL Sir Henry and his owner that he wants to continue
      racing and he is not interested in girls, they are just not as fast “as I am”.

  11. John Asher‏ tweet
    Another gallop this morning at Newmarket for unbeaten Frankel
    in preparation for next week’s Champion Stakes

  12. Sid Fernando + Obser‏ tweet
    Danedream could run in Japan Cup w Dubai eventual target

  13. Oh my look at our gorgeous Zenyatta. You are still breath taking oh gorgeous one. Would love to hear some news from you. Did you get to see the unvieling of your stature? It is beautiful, and the artist did a wonderful job, however nothing could ever compare to you in any way. You take my breath away. Take care and sending smooches to that sweet soft nose. Love, love, love you.
    Did you know that Karen Gogue took all the pictures and letters from your fans that we sent to Karen and made a scrap book for Dottie for her years of speaking Zenyatta and keeping us informed . That was such a nice thing for her to undertake. See we all love you so much, as well as your connections and how much you and they have done for the TB and racing.
    How is the boy doing? I bet he is enjoying romping and running with the guys. I am sure you miss him and he you. You are such a wonderful mother. God has blessed us with you.
    Miss you Zenyatta.
    Love hugs and kisses

    1. Awwww! :)

  14. Eblouissante (3-Year-Old Filly)

    Date: October 10, 2012
    Track: BETFAIR HOLLYWOOD PARK
    Distance: Five Furlongs
    Time: 1.00:20 Handily
    Track Condition: Fast
    Surface: All Weather Track
    Rank: 2/24

  15. @Sue Noel– so distressed about the news on Traveller. Can tey tell anything about the chances of the mass being malignant from bloodword without surgery?
    I would be encourages that she can tear around and play. Will keep praying. Thank you so much for the updates. Hugs.

  16. Dear Alys,Ref. Zenyatta photo on Oct. 3 2012. I have done cross-stitch from photos and would love to get this photo to do. Would pay for it. Love your photos. If this is possible, could you send me an email message? Not sure how this works. Thanks.

  17. BH_RaceResults tweet about a Kitten colt
    Gentleman’s Kitten (Kitten’s Joy – Imagistic) wins a maiden special weight at Keeneland
    http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/KEE/2012/10/10/3?utm_source=twitter

  18. Santa Anita: Gervinho earns shot at Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf
    By Steve Andersen DRF
    ARCADIA, Calif. – Gervinho is bound for the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf on Nov. 3 after winning the Zuma Beach Stakes at Santa Anita on Monday.
    His stablemate Winding Way, a stakes-winning female sprinter at Del Mar, will pass the Breeders’ Cup after her first loss Sunday.
    That was the approach trainer Carla Gaines envisioned Monday for early November.
    Gervinho, ridden by Rafael Bejarano, overcame losing his footing on the turn to close furiously through the stretch and win the one-mile Zuma Beach in his first start on turf and first start longer than 5 1/2 furlongs.
    Part of article about Winding Way
    Winding Way will not start in the BC Filly and Mare Sprint after her disappointing performance as the 3-10 favorite in the L.A. Woman Stakes. Ridden by Bejarano, Winding Way was last throughout and was never a factor in the stretch. It was her first loss in four starts.
    Gaines said that Winding Way may not start on a dirt track in future races.
    “I’m not running in the Breeders’ Cup,” she said.
    Instead, Winding Way may start on a synthetic track or turf, she said.
    http://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-gervinho-earns-shot-breeders-cup-juvenile-turf

  19. The Racy In Lingerie Pays Off For Eclipse Thoroughbred Partners
    Teresa Genaro‏ Sports Money Forbes Oct. 10
    Two years ago, a yearling bay filly went through the sales ring at Keeneland. Her sire, Empire Maker, won the Florida Derby, Wood Memorial, and Belmont Stakes, and he finished second in the Kentucky Derby. Still, no one was much interested in the filly; bidding reached $22,000, less than her reserve, and she left the ring unsold.
    Last weekend, she returned to the site of her ignominious beginning and emerged a star.
    On Sunday at Keeneland Race Course, In Lingerie won the Grade 1 Spinster Stakes, one of the country’s most prestigious races for fillies and mares. It was her third graded stakes victory, her fourth victory in seven races; she’s the kind of filly that Thoroughbred owners dream about.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/teresagenaro/2012/10/10/the-racy-in-lingerie-pays-off-for-eclipse-thoroughbred-partners/print/

  20. Thankyou so much, and thank you for this gorgeous picture of my best love, Zenyatta.
    Sending love & kisses on her soft nose, and to 12z too. Auntie Sally

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