Ask The Experts #26

Coz with John Shirreffs, June 2014. Photo by Kyle Acebo.

Coz with John Shirreffs, June 2014. Photo by Kyle Acebo.


How do you decide which horses will work in company?

Meredith Ramirez

Sacramento, California

A:There are several factors to consider: age, fitness, and length of stride. You want the horses to be compatible as workmates and you do not want one horse more stressed than the other. Consider it like dancing and both horses are “in-step” when working.

Expert: John Shirreffs


What are the indicators or signs that let you know a horse is 100% ready to race for the first time?

Lisa Myers

Hopkins, Minnesota

A: When a horse has trained hard enough to run and off of that training he shows you he wants to do more, this is a good sign. The feed tub is also a great indicator as to how the horse is handling and internalizing his work load. When the feed tub is “licked clean” each morning, a horse is ready to run.

Expert: John Shirreffs


Has Coz had the pleasure of drinking Guinness? Does he like certain foods?

Judy Gadwood

Burbank, CA

A: Coz is not “old” enough yet for beer (ha-ha). He has fresh carrot juice three to four times a week. John makes this for Coz at the barn and he drinks it out of a large salad bowl (this was one of Giacomo’s favorites as well). Coz also enjoys the Horse Apple Cookies that Mrs. Moss sends to the barn for him and his pals.

Expert: Dottie Ingordo-Shirreffs

Our Experts


John Shirreffs


John Shirreffs has been around horses all of his life and has always felt it was important to help a horse become significant, to make history. Zenyatta’s Breeders Cup wins helped his dreams come true. Read John’s complete bio.


Dottie Ingordo-Shirreffs

Racing Manager

As the Moss’ Racing Manager for the last 29 years, Dottie has actively been a part of each Moss horse’s life. It’s a family affair, as her husband John trains many of the horses that she manages. Read Dottie’s complete bio.


  1. RIP Oriental Art
    Dam of Orfevre dies from perforated uterus following the delivery of a filly and full sibling to Orfevre.
    His sire passed just a while ago as well and reportedly only covered one mare this

    1. Dear Janet.
      Oh, RIP! Great champions,
      Thanks for the up date.
      Hugs Ingrid.

    2. How very sad. RIP Oriental Art
      Condolences to all connections. Did the foal survive?
      Hugs and Love

    3. Dear Janet:

      Oh, how very, very sad. RIP beautiful girl. She was 18 years old. Wonder if the little one survived. Love and Hugs, JB

  2. RIP.Oriental Art.That’s such sad news.SheenaX

  3. Dear Judy.Hope all is well with you.Missing you here on the blog,Goodnight God bless you LM PC HT Cap Hercules Frank and all the sweeties.Love and hugs SheenaX

    1. Dear Sheena:

      Missed you too. Love and Hugs, JB

  4. spare Oriental Art, mom of Orfevre and sire of Orfevre, good racehorses, Coz congratulations with birthday, i think you will divide apple cake with mates in barn to celebrate, beautyfull Zenny care of your health, Zenny Ziconic Coz and mates kiss your soft noses, lil 14z filly im remembering you

  5. Dear Judy B.,
    Sure do miss you! Hope your computer gets well soon so we can have you back here with us. Take care!
    Hugs and Love

    1. Dear Marshall:

      Thank you for missing me. I missed all of you too. Love and Hugs to you Huey and Reilly, JB

  6. March 9 Cherokee Devotional

    The reason those we love have so much more power to hurt us is because we are open to them. When we trust in full confidence we are without the usual protection we keep around us for those we do not trust.
    Never accept words meant to hurt. Turn them back because they are the responsibility of the speaker. When you are caught off guard, hold the emotions in silence for a moment and tell them to be still. It takes longer to forget than it does to forgive-and tie heals when we give it the power.

    The war did not spring up here…the war was brought here…
    Spotted Tail
    Brule Sioux

  7. Judy,
    We are all missing you and hoping all is well. Take care and get back with us as soon as you can. Racing is really gearing up now and we need to talk about with you.


    1. Ditto from me Judy!

      1. Dear Shirlee and Sandy:

        Missed you too and being able to talk with you. My computer is finally up and running again. So happy to be back. Left a video of Carpe Diem and JV’s win on Ask The Experts #27. Love and Hugs, JB

  8. Hi Coz:
    Oh my gosh, I remembered your birthday was coming up and then it slipped my mind yesterday. Oh, I feel so bad that I missed wishing you a Happy Birthday on your special day. You are very special to all of us, Coz!!! Many of us were up all night waiting for the news that you arrived!!!! When the first pictures of you were posted, we all melted over how precious you looked that little colt lying in the hay with your Mom!!

    Happy Belated Birthday! I hope you got lots of treats and a special birthday cake. I know John was very busy on Saturday, So, maybe everyone at the barn had a chance to help you celebrate your special day on Sunday.

    Love you Coz!


    – Linda

  9. Dear Kathy.Welcome home!Hope you had a great weekend.Our short-lived spring sunshine has disappeared and the wet weather has returned.I hope it moves over to Cheltenham for the Fly!
    There was a sad postscript to Crufts with the death of a Belgian red setter called Jagger accusations of poisoning.They are waiting for the toxicology reports next week.So much rivalry in these shows and ambitious owners.It seems a few other dogs who took part that day have become ill too.Very sad.All our furbabies are pretty well I will be glad when Miss Kitty gets her tests she is obviously not well.Nerissa hasn’t been very well either losing weight and tummy troubles so the doc stole a lot of his blood last week(he even put out an APB)it turns out he has a problem with his thyroid and is now taking little pink pills!He is wonderful at taking his meds.I really hope he improves he will be 12 next month.Haven said the snow is starting to melt at long last!Gosh,Mango had another load of onesies yesterday and Judy has busy they are getting a new outdoor kitchen.Beautiful video of Ray washing his brother Hawley !Did you see Finn and his girlfriend Penster?they know it’s Monday too so I am off to turtle-turtle!Getting very excited about the festival!!Have a good day.Love and hugs to you,Kisses for Holly,Nikko and Sugar.Sheena.

    1. That is so unbelievable about Jagger.

      They’re covering this on the front page of The New York Times.

  10. Dear Sheena,

    The weekend was nice, now back to work. Went to bed early as I was tired from all the driving. We lost an hour over the weekend, Daylight Savings time. We always feel like zombies until we get used to the time change. Sorry your sunshine is gone for now.
    That’s awful about the possible poisoning of Jagger. Same thing happened to a beautiful Samoyed a few years back at the Westminster dog show. Glad to hear the FB furbabies are doing well. I hope they get Miss Kitty’s results soon and can help her. Sorry Nerissa isn’t well. That’s good the snow at Haven’s house is melting. Gosh, Mango sure gets a lot of clothes! I hope they donate some of them to shelters. I’m sure they probably do. An outdoor kitchen! How wonderful! Will check out the video on Ray’s page. I did see all the rat pics. So cute!!! They have the right idea to hide on Mondays. Get ready for the festival and have a good day. Love and hugs from me, kisses from Holly, Nikko and Sugar. Kathy.

  11. ♥ Dear CoZ
    I was at Santa Anita on Saturday morning ordering breakfast at Clocker’s Corner when a friend came to me and said I just saw Coz, and she showed me her pictures! I just missed you!

    You are so handsome!!! I hope you got my birthday card okay :-)

    I see you had another clocked workout today
    Cozmic One (3-Year-Old Colt)
    Date: March 9, 2015
    Distance: Five Furlongs
    Time: 1.01:20 Handily
    Track Condition: Fast
    Surface: Dirt
    Rank: 5/11!

    All my love! ♥ Auntie Judy XO

  12. There’s a gorgeous photo of Zenny in the snow on her facebook page — don’t miss it.
    Cannot look at her without smiling!
    Best to all.
    Annie B

  13. Coz is nominated for the Santa Anita Derby. Is it very likely a horse will just jump right in to a stakes race?

    1. It happens rarely, but it’s highly unlikely, especially putting a horse in a G1 for his first start.

    2. OK, I looked at the early nominations. They closed back on December 28, 2014, when we all thought Coz would be making a start soon. At the time, it was a sensible thing to do, especially since the nomination also covered three other stakes races (all of which have been run this year). However, the list of nominees is long. For actual entry, graded stakes winners are preferred, with the rest of the field to be filled according to winnings in non-stakes races. Since Coz has zero earnings, it seems to me certain that he wouldn’t make the gate, even if John actually wanted to run him.

  14. Have you made any decisions regarding who Zenyatta will be bred to this season? Sorry if this is a repeat question, I may have missed an earlier post. Do you put her under lights or allow nature to take its course. We’ve had good luck with the use of lights.

    1. She’s going back to War Front.

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