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Announcing The 2012 Breeders’ Cup Zenyatta Celebration

Second annual Zenyatta Celebration to welcome fans at the 2012 Breeders’ Cup World Championships.

Special Zenyatta seating section also available during Championships

Tickets on sale at Zenyatta Shop

ARCADIA, Calif. (Aug. 1, 2012) – Breeders’ Cup Ltd., along with Zenyatta owners Jerry and Ann Moss, announced today plans for the second annual Breeders’ Cup Zenyatta After-Party Celebration, to be held Championship Friday, Nov. 2, at Santa Anita Park’s Frontrunner restaurant. This year’s official event will be an exclusive evening full of Zenyatta fun following Friday’s race card and will benefit several equine and racing-related charities, including the Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund and The Communication Alliance to Network Thoroughbred Ex-Racehorses (CANTER).

The Zenyatta After-Party Celebration will be from 5:30 to 10:30 p.m., providing racegoers a relaxing environment to toast the day’s winners, celebrate the past and present of the Breeders’ Cup World Championships, while enjoying a twilight, panoramic view of the historic racecourse from Frontrunner. Amenities include a California buffet and cash bar featuring cocktails, race replays from Friday’s Breeders’ Cup program, entertainment, and a chance to meet Zenyatta’s connections and other racing celebrities.

Scheduled appearance and autograph signing at the event will be with trainer John Shirreffs, Dottie Shirreffs, racing manager for the Moss Racing Stable and the voice of the Zenyatta Diary, and jockey Mike Smith. Smith will bring along some of his fellow jockeys and other racing celebrities to mingle with partygoers. The After-Party Celebration will also feature the auction of Zenyatta memorabilia, artwork and an all-expense-paid trip to see Zenyatta and her growing colt at Lane’s End Farm in Versailles, Ky.

After-Party Celebration tickets are $50 for admission only, or $95 for admission combined with the buffet. Tickets are available for sale today on a first-come basis at the Zenyatta Shop.

As an added benefit for “The Queen’s” most loyal fans, Premier Grandstand seating in the designated Zenyatta Section during the Breeders’ Cup World Championships is now available online at http://www.breederscup.com/tickets/grandstand-reserved or by calling 877-TIX4CUP (877-849-4287). Tickets are $150 for Friday and $200 for Saturday. Included with the special section tickets is a complimentary Autumn season Clubhouse pass to Santa Anita Park, as well as a unique Zenyatta souvenir.

“We are thrilled that the Zenyatta Celebration will once again be a highlight at the Breeders’ Cup World Championships,” said Jerry and Ann Moss. “Santa Anita Park holds many special memories for us as the site of some of Zenyatta’s finest racing accomplishments.”

“Santa Anita Park has rolled out the red carpet for international race-goers and especially Zenyatta fans as they prepare for another Breeders’ Cup World Championship,” said Robert Elliston, Breeders’ Cup Chief Operating Officer. “The Zenyatta After-Party Celebration will be a fabulous way to honor one of Breeders’ Cup’s most popular stars and also raise funds for industry-related causes.”

Throughout her extraordinary racing career, Zenyatta thrilled racing fans with jaw-dropping victories and heart-pounding finishes. However, it was her memorable Breeders’ Cup performances, including her victories in the 2008 Ladies’ Classic, the 2009 Classic and her incredible finish at Churchill Downs in the 2010 Classic, that sealed her stardom and ignited a fan frenzy that has transcended the sport and endeared this stunning mare to millions.

About Breeders’ Cup
The Breeders’ Cup administers the Breeders’ Cup World Championships, Thoroughbred racing’s year-end Championships.  The Breeders’ Cup also administers the Breeders’ Cup Challenge qualifying series, which provides automatic starting positions into the Championships races. The 2012 Breeders’ Cup World Championships, consisting of 15 races and purses totaling more than $25 million will be held Nov. 2-3 at Santa Anita Park in Arcadia, Calif., and will be televised live by the NBC Sports Network. Breeders’ Cup press releases appear on the Breeders’ Cup Web site, www.breederscup.com. You can also follow the Breeders’ Cup on social media platforms, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

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  1. / Reply

    Hello Judy B:

    Thanks for your prayers. Thunder needs all the help he can get as his buddy, Oscar, rescued by Carol too has eye ulcers. Carol has her hands full. Hope she gets all the help for Oscar and Thunder. Hugs, Marilu

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      Marilu,
      I just sent a donation via PayPal to the Thunder Fund. It isn’t large, but I hope it helps. He is a lovely big guy with personality! Please keep us posted.
      All the Best!

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      Thanks for the reminder Marilu. Paypal makes it easy to help, and although there are probably more stories like this one out there than we will ever know, Thunder is a horse we CAN help thanks to you and his friends in Kentucky.
      Sandy

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    Hi Z Family. I called Dr. Hansen and he called me back. I am going to meet him tomorrow at Mountaineer. I will be there to cheer on Hansen. Mike Smith is riding Hansen. I am nervous but I am going to do it. I will be carrying my picture of Zenyatta to bring me calm confidence. I always carry her picture. FLY HANSEN FLY !!!!
    Love to all and My sweet z and Baby Z, Shari

    PS I will pray for Thunder and Oscar : )

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      Dear Shari:

      That’s wonderful that you will get to meet Dr. Hansen. If you get to meet Hansen as well, Wow. Have a lovely day. Hugs, JB

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      Just be your darling self and have fun, Shari! Dr. Hansen will be thrilled to meet the lovely teacher who introduced Hansen to her whole class, a class of students who were then inspired to write to and root for the Pegasus of colts! Fly, Hansen, fly!

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        Wow, Shari!!! Sounds like you’ll have a blast. If you meet “Hansen” give him a whisper in his ears “run babe, run” and a soft kiss on his nose!! Let us know how things go!! How exciting for you!

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      Shari,

      I am so happy for you. Tell Hansen hello for all of us and that we are rooting for him. Have a safe trip.

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      Doctor Hansen, who already rated pretty high with me for his previous kindness to you and your kids, just made a quantum leap in my opinion of him. Hope you have a great time. In addition, Mike Smith is one of the nicest men in racing. This is a combo anyone could get behind. We expect a full report as we are living vicariously through you.

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    Paynter Update August 3rd
    Bob Baffert‏ tweeted
    Paynter improving . So far so good.
    Maybe can ship over the weekend.
    A.ZAYAT‏ tweeted
    Power up Paynter. Totaly normal now. Doing awesome.
    Race didn’t take anything out of him .
    Happy camper but his owner is happier# blessed

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    Marilu,
    All the very best wishes for Oscar, too. Hope good health is on the near horizon for both Oscar and Thunder. Thanks for letting us know about these beautiful horses.
    Take care and hugs!

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    Word from Millie Ball HRTV, owners of Frankel
    Say “there is no reason to bring Frankel to the
    Breeders cup.”

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        Can’t wait for the French race.

        Millie Ball mentioned they ( the owners) did not want to run Frankel on the dirt in the BCC.

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    @Marshall (NC Broad), Jusy Berube, and Sandy (NE Ohio)– thanks so much for the help for Thunder. Carol is overwhelmed that strangers would help her.
    And thanks again, Marilu V. for being “on the scene” with this one.
    Hugs..

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      Max – are you getting to watch this live (somewhere in Canada)??? It’s not being shown on a channel that you can get here even if you were willing to pay.

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        It was shown yesterday on MSNBC. Another channel carrying the action is NBC sports channel. NBC sports channel is the same one that was carrying the Triple Crown races.

        • Thanks Max, and it’s (ahem) SANDY. NBCSports is a premium channel not available from my cable network. I must have missed that it was on MSNBC as well.

        • If you can’t get it on TV you can go to NBColympics.com and watche every event as it happens live.

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      Poor Beezie, I am sorry.
      Max, thank you for sharing the lovely Chachamaidee w/ us. Mo…haha!
      It has been a very exciting time in sports.

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      So Max, who is ERIC’s horse. None that we have talked about right???

      I am sure Hickstead is so very much missed by all, a very special horse and they
      don’t come like that very often.

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        Sign. Eric is riding Derly Chin de Luze. She is talented but has confidence problems. You never know. Beezie won well at Spruce Meadows last month and now her horse just had an off day. Sorry to see this.

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      My Exacta bet is in, Ann.

      You guys are much better at this than I am, but it is all in FUN !!!!

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        Considered an exacta…..but went with a place bet instead …at a price …
        Used same system I did for last yrs breeders cup….will see if it has merit

        • so that mean you be a longshot to place???

          I bet Ron the Greek to win and Hymn Book (JV aboard) to place.

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    Did you notice on the BC Capping site that Flat Out’s jockey isn’t Rosey Napravnik as shown on the NYRA website?

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    Okay Judy B and Saratogagirl,
    I joined the league, after much back and forth with “Justin” from the “help” dept, we got to know each other quite well, ha,ha. Must email him back and tell him what a great job he did!!

    My name is “Indy1”, to those that know me this is no surprise, and I bet the exacta with Ron the Greek and Flat Out. This should be fun. Thanks to you two for pushing me over the edge, course I’ve been known to be there already, ha, ha.

    Good Luck to the Z teams

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      SueF:

      So glad you joined. I knew Justin could help you! We are best buddies too now! Is is very willing to help and get you started, I knew he could help, if you just asked! (like I did). Glad your in the league!

      Good Luck!
      GirlSaratoga

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      Sign. He loves his “work”. JudyB discovered that the whole family is pretty much together. There are in fact four brothers who are in training with Henry Cecil, Bullet Train, Frankel, Noble Mission and Morpheus. The brothers can see each other every day! Kind is only 3 miles away at another Juddmonte farm. A sister filly as yet unnamed is a yearling who has probably been sent to Ireland.

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        WOW THAT IS AMAZING, the whole family being trained by Henry.

        Another one of those get to know the families !!!

        • Sign. There is hope that Z’s babies can stay together if they all go to John Sherriffs. Aunt Ebby is already there.

          That might also be the reason that Frankel would not move stalls. He wanted to be with his brothers? Horses like to be with their own kind. I also noticed that Bullet Train is the only pacemaker whom Frankel will follow. He ignored the others.

        • Max,

          More like a “dominance” move. He is already the “head guy” in his barn and when he changes barns he knows he will have to work his way “up”. He can also “boss” his siblings around more easlily.

          It is all about herd order and dominance !!!!

        • Definately Max, even his humans.

          He just wanted to keep it that way.

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        Dear Max, Sign and Z Fans:

        I e-mailed the site where I got the photos of Bullet Train, Noble Mission and Frankel and asked if they could post a photo of Morpheus as well. I got an e-mail back saying as soon as they obtain a photo of Morpheus they will post it in the gallery. I’ll post the link as soon as I have the photo of Morpheus.

        Here is a wonderful article by our Abigail of The Vault on Frankel the man and Frankel the horse and the horses who make up Frankel’s pedigree. Videos too. Hugs, JB

        http://thevaulthorseracing.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/the-namesake-frankel-2/

        • JudyB. Thanks for following up on finding a photo of Morpheus. I really admire your ability to do this kind of research. I am looking forward to see if he takes after his dam or his sire.

        • WOW THANKS JUDY.

          CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THESE PHOTOS !!!

          They are a beautiful family, with Frankel at the helm.

        • Dear Sign:

          I missed your post with this link. We always seem to choose the same links to post. Hugs, JB

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      Dear Sign and Z Fans:

      Thanks for this video. Loved watching “Bobby” win this one again. Hugs, JB

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      Sign. Thanks for this. I do not know why he did not pick Coriana van Klapscheut. I love her. She reminds me of Neville Bardos, although he’s a thoroughbred. Nev and Otis are great horses.

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        Max,

        It seems like size may be an issue. The mare he picked is young but very big and scopy, she just need to be ridden every step.

        Corina is small and may not have been able to perform as well over the course. When you are jumping the height and width of these jumps, size is definately a variable. GOOD LUCK TO ERIC !!!!

        Do they have to bring a number of horses, too for the Olympic jumping???
        Derly is a very beautiful chestnut mare.

        • Sign. The decision was not made by Eric alone. It is like Neville Bardos. The Canadian team picked Derly as the most competitive for the Games. Derly was purchased for Eric by Eric’s chief sponsor who is American. Apparently my Cori can be quite temperamental. She likes to buck in the ring and she resents it if they try to correct her. She has a take no prisoners attitude. People back off when she’s around. Great little horse.

        • Often times, Grand Prix/Olympic jumpers are very tempermental.

          Shutter Fly is very hard to ride as is Checkmate.

          Jumping High through a large long course gets them reved up
          and then they have to collect back.

          Working with Cori, just takes soft hands, gentle asking to temper her strong personality. Size definatley has to do with stamina and ability to jump long and large jumps consistently. A rider of Eric’s capability/caliber should not have trouble with her temperment issues. Those issues make her very talented.

          Have you see Mr. Whoopie, talk about strong and buck buck buck
          between fences. He is a real character !!!

        • Max

          In jumping your legs are the “gas pedal”, when a horse refuses or
          has temperment issues at the jump, lack of confidence or boldness as new
          young jumpers do. The leg is used to get them over the jump.

          Good solid pressure, not too much in the case of Corina, will get them over.
          With a tempermental sort, it has to be firm, but able to be quickly released
          when they get “fussy” or upset, but still able to move her forward and over.

          Just a bit of finese, which I am sure Eric Lamaze has no problem with.
          But who did the qualifiers chose ???? They want the best horse that can win for their country ???

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      Thanks for that, sign. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but love watching it. I have seen Olympics all week, looking for horses, and finally there was equestrian jumping 1st round today. Such beautiful animals, even if not Zenyatta. Less enjoyable was the German rider with a doping suspension from Beijing, who confirmed my thoughts of him by whipping his horse after a stumble & several rails fell. The whipping just didn’t seem warranted, the horse did not appear to be threatening anything.

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        Vicki B. I hate it when they use the whip on jumpers. It is used to correct errors so that the horse will understand what was done wrong and not repeat it. Still hate it.

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        Dear Vicki B, Max and Z Fans:

        I don’t think they should be allowed to use the whip in the case of a stumble or dropped rails. You’re right, it isn’t warranted and it isn’t kind. I think it makes the horse more fearful and less well behaved. Hugs, JB

        • Max & Judy, I agree. Such people need to be taking lessons from Buck Brannaman, or else leave the sport.

        • Eric Lamaze used the whip on Derly just last month at Spruce Meadows. It was done after she refused to jump. He also spoke sternly to her. It seemed to work because she then tried the same jump and did it perfectly. I can tell you that it was not done harshly but I still did not like to see it. After the race, Eric said in an interview that he had concerns about Derly and whether she should go to the Olympics. He said that he did not want to push her too hard and ruin “her career.” A nice guy.

        • Max,

          Eric used the appropriate tactics with her. He must get her over and tell her to go over to get her through her lack of confidence. He rode her with confidence and told her she must go over. A whip is what makes the demand along with his legs and voice. Without his strength she will be come insecure and not be able to continue on. That is what a good and talented experienced rider does with his/her green horses to give them confidence. She now know there are no animals on the back side of the jump that are going to attack her. She can not see the back of the jump and does not know what is on the other side.

          If they refuse a lot, they will never go over and get very insecure.
          The whip tells them they better go over. When Jethro did not go over, I had to use a very strong leg and demand with my body language that he go over. He would not have anything to do with the whip.

        • Max,

          With a young horse, Eric is absolutely correct. If you push them too hard
          they will not be able to perform and move forward, because it is too much for her. She is very young and inexperienced.

          Vinny the warmblood I rode was pushed too hard to be a jumper by his owner, he started acting up and had to be put out to pasture for a while so he could clear his head and then started again.

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        Vicki B:

        I agree, no rider should be whipping their horse for a stumble or a missed jump! I hope the horse bit him hard! I DON NOT SEE A REASON FOR THIS BEHAVIOR? Thank God I don’t get whipped when I trip or stumble, I would be black and blue all over!

        GirlSaratoga

        • GS,

          It is a way to get the horse over the jump and build confidence.

          Again, you are using “human” emotions, yours to judge an appropriate
          riding tactic.

        • Sign is right. Derly did not seem to mind at all about the whip. This is the way that the rider has to communicate with the horse. If the whip is used too harshly, the judges would take action. After the race, Derly seemed to be quite happy, but no where as happy as Beezie Madden’s horse who won. When they win, these jumpers are very proud of themselves. It is quite marvelous to watch. One time when Hickstead won at Spruce Meadows he lost a shoe in the competition. They decided to replace the shoe in the ring before the winner’s ceremony. Eric was interviewed while this was going on. You could see Hickstead in the background, watching Eric like a hawk and eager to get the chore over so that he could get his reward. It was really very good.

        • Max,

          You are right, these jumpers are very amazing animals.

          They so love their job.

          Jethro was no where near the level we are seeing in these Olympics or any Grand Prix.

          But if you showed him a jump, he was game, the higher the better and the more excited. He was also a very good strategizer and very bold to keep himself entertained. He would take the 5 stride jumps in 3 and as the rider you better hang on and go with him or fall off !!!!!!

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    @sign…..I originally bet the Ron/Flat exacta….then decided to try “my system”….would have won over $700 if I had actually bet using it at last yrs breeders cup….gave me Court Vision who almost no one saw coming…so we shall see…so I used a “place” bet on a long shot who got more points (for me) than the two favorites….got to take a chance…the rules say you can change up yo 10 minutes before the race….unfortunately we will be out….so I am going with what I have…
    FLY HANSEN FLY……really want him to demolish that field….think I am getting bloodthirsty in my old age
    ……
    Hi Zenny…..kisses for you and IWillNeverBeWeeAgainZee

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        A yellow banner appears at the top of the screen and says it has been accepted.
        I was confused, thinking I could bet first, second, third and an exacta. You can only bet one of the first three places or an exacta.

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      TOO CUTE NAME Carol for 12 Z.

      Sounds like an interesing way to bet as a place.

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      Flat out is really blossoming under Bill Mott.

      He is a very talented trainer that really can pace the development of
      his training, which is a key to getting them peaked.

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    @GirlSataroga-I have been remiss in not asking you to join the Redneck Club. There are no dues and the only thing we offer is fun. If you are from New York, you would be the president of that chapter as we have no other members from that state. Just indicate a willingness to join, and I will give you the details later. The only thing you will have to remember is the sacred date of January 27.

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      Dear Terry Crow:

      I’m afraid I will disappoint you, I am not from New York! I am from Connecticut! But my heart is always in New York! If you would still like me to join the Redneck Club, I would love to! But I need to know about January 27th? And I need the details!

      Thanks for asking!
      GirlSaratoga

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    @Grand Poobah….my screen at the fantasycapping site shows a “ticket” just below where you have placed your bet….it changed when I changed my bet….also…someone said that when you submit your bet a yellow banner appears for a short time at the top of screen saying “your bet has been accepted”….since I work off a tablet I missed it the first time but when I changed the bet I scrolled up and caught it just before it disappeared

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      I did see the ticket, so I guess I’m OK. Thanks, carol.. Just seems like an unusual way to keep track of the bets.

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    Good luck to all the Zentastic Team!!! I placed 3 bets, or at least, I think I did. LOL
    Flat Out win
    Ron the Greek Place
    Rule show

    Unfortunately, I won’t be able to watch live so, will have to wait for the re-plays when we get home this evening.

    I thought that Fox was going to show the WVD???? I haven’t found it yet on the guide. Hmmm…

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      Ok, just realized that you can only make one bet so, I went for the win with Flat Out. Glad that I figured that one out! LOL

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    Tweet on drf just said that Whitney and WVD scheduled to go off at exactly the same time….figures…I get to miss both

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    Oh Pooh! My exacta bet for Ron and Flat Out lost by one horse, Ft Larned (stinker) ha, ha just kidding. Oh well I live to bet another day.

    So sorry about Hansen, I think he went out too fast and ran out of gas. Hope Shari got to meet him anyway.

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      Dear Sue Fredrick:

      Tough one to lose. Fort Larned ran great; sure surprised me. I was not close. Exacta Boxed Flat Out with Hymn Book. Hugs, JB

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      Distance is too long, he is asking to be shortened and hope he is.

      Just like Shack, he loves the short distance and is at his tenacious best.
      GO GO GO Shack !!!!

      I sure hope Z’s TAPIT foal gets a good combination of speed and distance !!!

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        I thought about capping him, the talking heads were “talking” a lot about him and that he was due for a big run.

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        Sign. That tail might have angered the racing gods. MM did a very good run. Holy Bull is on a victory roll with his sons.

        • Max,

          MM was awesome.
          Yes, racing gods may not have been happy.
          Fun is fun, but racing is a serious professional business.
          So glad Holy Bull is getting redemption.

          He is such a cute “little” old white grampy. Sway back and all. Love when Mike Smith says he was about this much taller, TOO CUTE.

          Bet Dr. Hansen’s patient’s don’t have anything painted blue !!!

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    Dear TC GP:

    Just checked the Leaderboard. Congrats; you did it. Nice handicapping. Good for you. Hugs, JB

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      Well, dang nab it. That RN knows a little sumpin bout pickin horses too!
      I bet he is just pickin and a grinnin today!!!

      Way to cap TC and that is not Andy Cap!

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        YOU ARE TOOOOO FUNNY, ANN.

        I AM GOING TO LAUGH ALL DAY REMEMBERING YOUR COMMENT !!!!!

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    Star Billing “runs a HUGE one” to take second in the Clement Hirsh for John Shirreffs! High hoof!

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      John seems to specialize in horses who “come from behind” for a great ending. It was SO close. Finally got to see one without calracing.com hanging up on my computer!!

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      Very sorry to see Star Billing finish second, but she did very well nevertheless. She will race again and win. John Sherriffs has a definite affinity for training fillies and mares. I am certain that Big D would be proud of his filly.

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    Amanda:

    Thamks for the link to Holy Null, I didn’t know he was Giacamo’s Daddy, how cool, now we know where he got his speed and talent! Beautiful video, thanks for sharing it with all of us.

    Much appreciated!
    GirlSaratoga

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    Marilu:

    I want to make a contribution to Thunder but I don’t do online banking or paypal! Can u with give a way I can send a check or money order? Or if it’s easier a link with the information would be fine too! Won a little money at the slots today, and would like to make a donation! I wish it could be a “BIG” one as I was hoping and praying to hit the “BIG” jackpot so that I could make a dent in his much needed surgery. Who knows going back on Wednesday, maybe I’ll be a lucky lady!

    Any help you could provide would be much appreciated!

    GirlSaratoga

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    Hey I just found out that Life is Sweet was sent to Tapit this year too. So we can look forward to both she and Zenny having the same baby’s daddy again this year. Also, Z’s 1/2 sister Where’s Bailey was sent to Z’s sire Street Cry for the second time. She already has a 2010 filly by Street Cry. So may babies to keep an eye out for in the next couple of years.

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      Dear Amanda:

      Thanks for the update on Life Is Sweet and Where’s Bailey. Like to keep track of the babies. Hugs, JB

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      Amanda:

      Don’t forget that our “Prince Z” and Rachel’s new filly will be half’s! Same daddy! There are going to be some fine looking babies to watch for in 2015 and 2016! Thanks for the update, love to hear who hookin’ up with who!

      GirlSaratoga

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        GirlSaratoga. There will be no recognized TB breeding relationship between 12Z and the forthcoming RA filly by Bernie. Relations are traced through the female line only. To be related as full or half siblings, foals have to have the same mother. For thoroughbreds, the dam is the determining factor for families.

        • Max:

          Thanks for the TB lesson today, I didn’t know that! I just love this group….if you don’t know something you ask, and if you think you know something and are completely wrong, you get the correct info! Such a wealth o knowledge here! And the links are to die for!
          Thanks for my valuable lesson today!
          GirlSaratoga

        • GirlSaratoga. You are welcome. It is always important to look first at the dam line as a predictor of racing ability. Henry Cecil says this. If you look at Frankel, his dam line is as strong as his sire line. It is the same for 12Z. Zenyatta has a marvelous female family which explains some of her greatness. Street Cry also has contributed unquestionable talent. However with Z her excellence is also based on what the French call the “je ne sais quoi ” factor, which is unique and all about her.

        • Max:

          Once again I didn’t know it was all about the “girl power”! But very interesting info! I will definitely pay more attention to the dam’s and not the daddy’s! I guess I thought it was all about the “stud” and not the momma! Maybe this will help with my future bets and future winnings!

          Thanks! :-)
          GirlSaratoga

        • Dear GirlSaratoga, Max and Z Fans:

          Max is correct. The half sibling relationship in TB’s depends on their having the same Dam not the same Sire. I do take liberties there; I plead guilty. I made the comparison of Macho Macho and MMM being half brothers because they have the same sire, Macho Uno. Technically, I’m wrong. Don’t want to give you misleading info. Hugs, JB

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        GS,

        It is a combination of dam and sire. Sometimes one contributes more than
        the other, but when both are strong their is a greater influence.

        Like Hansen, his dam was unraced and not well know, bred to Tapit and
        he got a lot of great traits from his sire.

        Breeding is such a crap shoot, not to say some of Zenny’s foals may also
        be claimers as well. We will never know until they come to the track.

        Like the Green Monkey, 16 million dollars and not able to race at high levels.

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